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A Bad Deal

I recently passed on job that was such a bad deal, I had to share. Below is the job description and my thoughts on it. Hi Lincoln, Thank you for the fast response! Below is the run down for the job. We’ll be putting together a list of (roughly) 60 venues (restaurants, bars, concert spaces)...

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  • Mau Orozco09/03/2013 - 9:51 pm

    Unreal. I see similar “opportunities” come up frequently now. Long time ago I briefly worked in post production for a company that shot hotels to create virtual tours and they offered a similar deal (probably not as bad) and they had people lined up to do the photography.

    Of course the post production department would frequently have to save the day when the crappy images came in. Unbelievable they had the audacity to make this offer after looking at your level of work.ReplyCancel

  • Aubrie LeGauly09/04/2013 - 7:57 am

    Wow. It sounds like a horrible deal. Thanks for sharing this it was informative to see what you thought…and it taught us “newer” photographers to say no to bad deals.ReplyCancel

  • KW09/04/2013 - 10:52 am

    Holy smokes! I feel like even using my iPhone would cost more money to just produce a shot-unedited.
    Having the pleasure of working next you and your methods, this is very insulting. As I am sure they will get what they want from someone, Where do you go from here?
    Thanks for sharing this bit of insight. As a new photographer, all of your posts are very informative, a little scary, and extremely valuable.

  • Mary Anderson09/04/2013 - 12:11 pm

    Lincoln, wise move! Having worked with Philip for 13 years, I know how incredulous this job is. You’re exactly right, they want a button pusher who takes no pride in the quality of their work or building a reputation or portfolio. Good shooting takes lots of time…and whatever lighting is necessary to make that shot magical. Unfortunately their shots will look as good as $10 per.ReplyCancel

  • Lincoln Barbour09/04/2013 - 2:24 pm

    Hi everyone! Thanks for all the supportive comments. I’ve always felt that transparency is the best way to elevate the industry. A lot has change from the film days, but you should still be able to make a living as a photographer. Shooting jobs like this is sure way to lose money.ReplyCancel

  • Lauren Hall-Behrens09/04/2013 - 5:04 pm

    It is truly stunning that people compliment one’s work without any true understanding, interest or respect of its nature. That being said, turning away jobs can be difficult for people starting out in their careers – I’m glad you’ve posted your experience as a warning to them.ReplyCancel

  • Kindred spirit10/22/2013 - 3:01 pm

    I got the same pitch a year ago from Urban Daddy. What a joke. I like how they want you to do the cold calling too.

    They never launched in my city so maybe they haven’t found someone dumb enough to take it.ReplyCancel

  • Jaclyn Campanaro05/31/2014 - 3:37 pm

    Hello, just curious what your response was. When I get these kinds of “offers” I’m always incredulous and never know how to respond. A simple “no thank you”? A short explanation of why I’m turning the job down? Something inside me always wants to tell them “You should be ashamed of yourselves.”ReplyCancel

    • Lincoln Barbour06/05/2014 - 3:48 pm

      Sorry to reply so late, been busy with real work for real pay 😉 I was kind of rude to the guy who contacted me. I told him I don’t work this way and it was kind of insulting. Not my best response, but it really wasn’t worth it to me. It’s really hard to make cheap clients into anything but that. I’ve had other inquiries like this come in and I’ve just said I’m booked.ReplyCancel

  • Adrian Tan07/25/2014 - 7:24 pm

    Sounds like a job for real estate photographers. A quick 3 exposure for HDR, 5 image job can be done within 20mins. It’s actually worth it for them because they get anything between $150-250 for 20-30 images.

    Although the licencing is just a dead ripoff!ReplyCancel

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